Wednesday, July 14, 2010

Atheists do you beleive in love?

You cannot touch love, you cannot see love, you cannot hear love, you cannot smell love and you can't taste love. Love is outside the realm of our five natural senses so, how do you know you have love? how do you know you give love away?


and if we do things out love are they not physical manifestations of love, why is it so hard to beleive that


God(Love) created life and the universe(physical manifestations) ?

Atheists do you beleive in love?
Tx Guy-





I know what you are trying to say, but you are amongst atheists who do know what love is about since it was a trait that was installed in each one of us when God made us...so it is only by choice that they choose not to believe in their creator!





Be Blessed!
Reply:Oh so you agree that God is just a product of the mind? Thanks, we've been trying to tell you that for years. Glad you finally came around to reality.





"God dwells in a different demension than us(yet, he still able to affect ours) he is not bound by the physical laws that govern our world."





So what brings you to that conclusion? Isn't that a stretch from Heaven being above the Earth as per the Bible?
Reply:Well, actually, attraction has many physical attributes that you can measure: Increased blood flow to lips and face. release of endorphins, release of pheromones and hormones. So, yeah you can see it.
Reply:So you are saying that god is nothing more than an emotion? An intangible product of the mind? Thanks for agreeing with what atheists all over the world have been saying.
Reply:I believe in love, but then I am not claiming that what I feel created something physical out of nothing. Whatever I think or feel about love it will always be nothing more than something in my mind. And, no one has ever said that love is sane. So whatever figments you may have in your mind are just that, figments of your mind and they may not even be sane figments.
Reply:So you're saying the universe exists, therefore your description of why the universe exists must be correct. You don't need me to tell you how ridiculous that is.





And yes, I do believe in love. It has nothing to do with observing 'physical manifestations of love'. Take any definition of love and you'll find that it can very easily be demonstrated to exist.
Reply:strictly into the lust thing myself


Cant see the wind, I know it is there.


cant see the cold, I know it is there
Reply:Love is NOT an emotion. You can have an emotion because of love - happiness, lust, sadness, etc. But love is putting the needs of another ahead of your own and romantic love goes further. there is something special and ineffible about love for humans. This is a ubiquitous, objective experience.





To reduce love to the biochemical reactions that underly it is absurd for two reasons. First, a physical explanation of mechanics by definition has NOTHING at all to say about whether or not there is more to the story, a meta-physical or super-natural aspect. Second, it suggests that the human is merely a composite of all the processes and bits she contains, and therefore has no special ontological value. This idea fails the intuitive ethics test every time utilitarianism is pit against something closer to deontology. When choosing between saving the life of your pet hamster and a child you do not know, this perspective would have you choose the hamster. It is objectively wrong and incompatible not only with the universal moral intuition but with the way humans have thought and behaved and been selected via evolution.





Which is why it is self-eliminating. No woman wants to reproduce witha man who says, "My body is duping me by tricking my illusory experience of a unified consciousness into thinking there is some intangible warmth we share so as to procure optimal continuation of my selfish genes." My wife prefers, "I love you."
Reply:-Drink- What site do you people get this argument from?
Reply:See I don't think that if you do something out of love that it is a "physical manifestation of love". Love is an emotion, not an independent force. It is dependent on people. WE do things because we love, love itself doesn't do anything at all. So obviously it didn't make the universe by itself either.
Reply:love is a chemical reaction in the brain stimulated by scents that people of the opposite sex give off. this is a proven fact by bio chemists
Reply:You answered your own question. I believe in love. I experience love. I don't see how my love can create a universe. It can't really even create a cup of coffee, unless I add in a set of hands, a cup, and coffee.
Reply:*drink*





my definition of love is much harsher than yours, i'm sure
Reply:Sorry, this argument doesn't stand up. An atheist can believe in love as an emotion because it can be experienced. There is no reason to assume that it comes from a source outside of us. There is nothing that can be experienced that must necessarily come from an outside God.





Furthermore, I could argue that violence, hatred and ignorance exist (again because I can perceive them), and thus actions done out of ignorance and hatred are manifestations of the same. And so, couldn't it then be said -- by the same reasoning -- that God (ignorance and hatred) created life and the universe?





The Theist would then need to use some additional bit of metaphysics like free-will or the devil, to explain how God is really just love (which we know exists because we experience it), but hatred and ignorance (which we also know exist, because we experience them as well) are caused by something else. This would undermine the idea of God as creator of all, and ultimately lead to one of the "mysteries" of religion (after perhaps a few more metaphysical tweaks to the belief system).





On the other hand, the atheist would not have to add anything to his perspective, which is that love, hate, ignorance, joy, etc. are all human emotions, experienced and generated by human beings, and not dependent on any outside force.
Reply:Because they have experienced love and they give love. They accept love of others. They do not believe in God because they have not experienced God, they do not accept His love.








heidavey : Love and attraction are not the same thing.


Johnny Cage: You can love people of the same gender, love doesn't have to be romantic either.
Reply:Love is an emotion
Reply:Wow how original! Not only are we going to HELL, but now we can't have love either! Some of you Christians are so freaking ridiculous!
Reply:*DRINK*





I believe in love as it is defined subjectively by each individual that chooses to define it, but accept for myself only my own evolving definition(s).
Reply:*wishes there was a way to "ban" stupid people with stupid questions*
Reply:no cz the athiest consider themselves to be the most logical ppl on earh(idiots) , they need proof for everything, they dont beleive in God cz they cant see him physically , and i dont think they see love physically either there isnt an object called love that exists, so i dont think they shld beleive in it, and if they do beleive they r hypocrites...lol.
Reply:In all honesty, I believe that love is an emotion that you take action on. It is not a thing in and of itself to be believed in.





Do you believe in mad, angry, or hate? Sounds silly to think of it outside that context, doesn't it?
Reply:*glug*
Reply:I do believe in love -


but I don't feel like I need to enroll in a dating service in order to have access to it...





Thank Cupid





hihi
Reply:Emotions are influenced by hormones and neurotransmitters, and love is no exception.





Love is also not what people are talking about when they refer to God.
Reply:Love is an emotion. God is a religious concept.





I know an emotion is real when I experience it, and when I see others experience it.





Gods lack good evidence they exist, so I don't believe they do exist.





When you confuse concepts, you compose bad questions.
Reply:Love is an emotion, not an intelligent being.
Reply:Oh geeze.


Love is set forth with emotions.


Emotions stem from chemical reactions with in the brain.


Adrenalin


Dopamine


Serotonin


Oxytocin





LOL so are you saying that god is nothing more than a chemical cocktail of hormones. Yeah that's what we have been trying to tell you.
Reply:bad analogy... a really bad one





Your god makes specific claims, and there are many measurable aspects to both love and your god. The difference is, love is an abstract concept, a label given to either feelings or actions (or feelings %26amp; actions at the same time). Your god is supposed to be a real force, with a real gospel. Your god is just as absent as everyone else's god. Your holy scriptures are the same cryptic mythology everyone else has.
Reply:Love is a quale (qualia). Which means it's observable. Look it up.
Reply:THEY HAVE TO 'LEARN', 'SOON ' OR 'LATER', GOD BLESS US, ALL.


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